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Dartz's avatar

This seems like a simple question, but I think the subject is more complex. But as a first attempt, let's focus just on the healthcare aspect, e.g. who should pay for healthcare for people who are overweight. In the US, healthcare is a shared cost, generally, with people paying some amount personally (via cash, copays, insurance premiums etc), with some amounts being paid by employers and some by government at various levels. The specifics vary a lot, with the poorest paying the least share out of pocket, and the richest paying the most. I think your argument is generally that "fat" people are more expensive than lower weight people for the government portion of healthcare expenditures, and that it is that portion of their cost you care about (the public burden portion). And your base argument is that their condition is a choice, and because it's a choice it shouldn't be a public burden.

That same "your choice" argument could be used for drug overdoses, motorcycle or scooter accidents with head injuries, auto accidents by speeders, smoking related lung cancer, heart attacks due to lack of cardio exercise by thin people, people who jay walk and get hit by a bus, run of the mill measles by people who chose to forgo vaccination, etc. As a society we'd have lower shared burden medical costs, and a lot more people dying on the streets and sidewalks. So, if you can put a label on it, and say "it was their choice" and deny care, then only people of financial means will have care, because everyone who suffered a health event due to a "choice" would be denied the public cost sharing portion. I'm not sure that's actually what people want, but perhaps it is. Hard to think of something that can't be labeled a "choice" at some level.

You could also look at "fat" as a spectrum. If your BMI is 25.1. should you pay a little more than a 'non overweight' person. If your BMI is 26? When it's 30 and classified as obese should you be charged a higher fee at the doctors office, or higher insurance. Or at BMI of 35? And what about the anorexic patient or the cancer patients wasting away. Should they get rebates because they are thin?

Or we could look at the public policy aspect. Since approximately 74% to 76% of adults in the United States aged 25 and older have a BMI over 25, meaning they are classified as either overweight or obese, this is a huge voter block. Do you think it's likely that 3/4s of the US voters would vote to penalize themselves by decreasing the public share of their health care costs? Particularly when it is the "catastrophic insurance" coverage portion that can keep them out of bankruptcy or death?

Another way to look at Approximately 74% to 76% of adults in the United States aged 25 and older have a BMI over 25, meaning they are classified as either overweight or obese, is to say that 3/4s of US adults are already paying their "fair" share, and 25% are paying more, or overpaying. Kind of like men paying for pregnancy, or women paying for prostate cancer care. In the public portion you pay a share for things that personally you may not suffer. That's just the yin/yang of public services.

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Frank Lee's avatar

On recent flight from DC to Sacramento it was shocked at the number of XXL and XXXL passengers. Thankfully my 115 lb wife did not take up much room in the center seat, because the kid next to her was 300 lbs with much of it spilling out into her seat space. The guy in front of me was so big that he about knocked my laptop off my tray table every time he leaned back… and I was in extra legroom class seats.

My problem is that we have friends who are fat. I have brothers that are overweight. I have cousins, nieces and nephews that tip the scales. My new daughter in law and my other son’s live in girlfriend are big. I have to keep myself from any judgement. My wife and I, and our two sons, have always stayed fit and healthy body weight. It bothers me because it is a sign of weakness… lack of self control. The people at the airport standing in line for pizza and Chick Fil-A far exceeded the lines where fresh salads could be purchased. The portions people eat are huge. The only fast food I get is and In-and-Out protein style burger, or Subway turkey and avocado on flatbread or a wrap… with lots of veggies and mustard only. I don’t eat a lot of carbs… except some rice. I am a home chef, so we eat well. Made chicken piccata tonight, with roasted summer squash from the garden. Smaller portions. Apples, oranges, grapes, celery and carrots for a snack. Maybe some humus dip. I walk. It isn’t that difficult. I do love cheese, but again, smaller portions.

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